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Regarding his education: there is, nor was there ever, any such place as Cardinal O'Connell Seminary (though the good Cardinal, whose ego was equivalent to Churchill or FDR may have wished that). It is my understanding that Goegan attended St. John's Seminary in Brighton, MA for a time, but was dismissed due to "immaturity" and spent a year at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, and then, due to the influence of an uncle, a monsignor with powerful connections in the Archdiocese of Boston, was reinstated at St. John's, from which he was ordained in whatever year it was. I will have to dig up some sources on this. What is important; he was dismissed from the seminary because of "immaturity" and transferred to Holy Cross. It was only because of powerful family connections that he was allowed back to the seminary and subsequently ordained priest, thus allowing him to embark upon his career of molestation.(Mccarthymichaelp (talk) 23:51, 20 August 2011 (UTC)).[reply]

Regarding Geoghan's education, the article states that he attended Cardinal O'Connell Seminary; there is, nor was there ever, a Cardinal O'Connell Seminary (N.B. despite the ego of the late Cardinal, which bordered upon that of Churchill and FDR, he never managed to have a seminary named after himself). In fact, he attended St. John's Seminary, Brighton, MA. The confusion may possibly arise from the fact that at some point not long after his ascendency to Boston, Archbishop William (later Cardinal) O'Connell removed the priests of the Society of St. Sulpice (a group that staffs seminaries) from the faculty of St. John's. Were I at home in my private library, I would be able to cite sources for this. It is my understanding that Geoghan was dismissed from St. John's due to "immaturity" and that he spent a year, possibly two, at the College of the Holy Cross, in Worcester, MA. However, due to the influence of an uncle, a priest with powerful connections in the Archdiocese of Boston, with the title of monsignor, he was reinstated to St. John's Seminary in Brighton, from which he was ordained priest, subsequently the rest happened. The point is: he was dismissed from the seminary, spent a year at least at a local undergraduate institution, but was reinstated at the behest of a relative who was a cleric with powerful connections in the Archdiocese of Boston, during the time of Richard Cushing as archbishop. Again, were I home in my private library, I would cite sources for this as well. User:McCarthymp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccarthymichaelp (talk • contribs) 00:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't he lose the title "Father" when he is defrocked? --Jiang

He's still a priest after defrocking, though the defrocking (indeed, just being put on administrative leave) forbids him to identify himself as a priest. But since this covers a period both before and after his defrocking, it's not inappropriate to use it here. -- Someone else 23:35, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Actually he lost the title when he was dismissed from the clerical state. Therefore it is not appropriate to have the title "Father" used for him. He remained a priest, but lost all the benefits of the clerical state including that one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.242.228.133 (talk) 21:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed from rape category

Never convicted of rape. He died in prison with case underappeal, but will leave in sexual abuse cat.--FloNight 07:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 17:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Joseph Druce into John Geoghan

While he was already in prison for murder, Druce is only notable for the murder John Geoghan and much of the information here is already there. Per WP:NOPAGE I do not believe he merits a standalone article. Star Mississippi 20:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 13:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our Fathers

was a film on Showtime about the sex abuse starring Ted Danson and Christopher Plummer. It told the story from the POV of Mitchell Garabedian, the attorney who defeated Cardinal Law. 75.166.4.105 (talk) 21:51, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]